- Fundora is a tough out for anyone, even though he does everything to make himself beatable.
-Adames hasn’t really improved so much as reminded everyone of Montiel’s limitations. Charlo got himself a relatively safe mandatory
- I know Ancajas makes for fast pace fights but I hate his style and am glad he’s being relegated to off-TV fights from here (presumably)
As for Jack Reiss, not sure what that was about but he’s been a solid ref in the past (if a little curmudgeonly) and I hope the CA commission makes him watch the fight with them and explain his tantrums.
What the hell was wrong with Jack Reiss? Seemed to be in a really bad temper. IMO there was no real need to threaten Ocampo with stopping the bout at the end of the 8th and as Ocampo didn't spill the water in the corner between the 10th and 11th it was rather brutal to tell the commission reps that he wanted Ocampo fined. Water is spilled all the time in the corners during fights it's difficult to prove that such spillages were done deliberately.
When you consider the physical advantages that Fundora possesses I think Ocampo did as well as could be expected - although obviously Jack Reiss wouldn't agree.
I have to say that Seb Fundora's career shows how trusting boxing fans are. He's 6'6", and repeatedly makes the 11 stone limit, seemingly with ease, then after rehydration seems to be as strong as an Ox and yet not a single boxing fan appears to bat an eyelid - not a single query asking how Fundora is able to do this.
Just a guess on Fandora doing this and that is the PBC drug testing arraingment ? Just a thought.
As for Jackie Poo he is an idiot and anyone who is not slanted would feel the same way. It was not just wrong it effected the fight up until Jackie Poo got a deep need to make the fight about himself something he always does reguarly, Oca was going to the body often, was using head shots when available then Jackie to the rescue he wanted to see more punches more power shots. That is not the refs job...Not at all..... If a fighter throws looping shots, if a fighter throws body shots it dont matter. If a fighter is hurt which Oca was not if a fighter is limited bc he is not staggered and can not defend himself that is a dif story. I talked this over at lenght with someone else so am tiered of it but Jackie Poo was out of line. He should be fined not the corner for spilling water, he should be brought to explain himself not the corner. He effected outcome of a fight. He forced Oca corner to make his fighter fight as if he had been knocked down several times and was walking the canvas like he was drunk he was not. That is pure shit on Jackie Poo side. Hey it dont bother me like those using PEDs we can argue this point . And one other thing the annoucers were terrible they gave all credit to Fundora but nothing to Oca for six rounds it was not until Farhoods card in the sixth which he called the figth even at that point then the crew started to recognize the skills and fighter mentally Oca possess. Thanks Ozz sorry i took so many words.............
No problem John I completely agree - I watched on YouTube the following day and I couldn't believe the ref's performance - no wonder Ocampo was asking for a rematch - he won't get one though of course.
From all the dodgy drug testing goings on that Haymon has been close to in the past, I'll be surprised if there's any proper random drug testing being used on any of the PBC fighters.
I think from the little I have found out is that PBC and its fighters are not too concerned about there fighters being surprised with drug testing of any effective time. Times are changing and getting worst with testing. When promoters act the way they did and hid results which is not new it has been going for a long time. Test but warn in adance and if the fighter gets caught dont report till after the fight then play word games about B Sample and try to confuse the publc or at least wait till they forget about it which takes about 24 hours. Shame they have no test for honesty and respect for the sport.....There would be no promoters left, not an honest platform around either.
My takeaways:
- Fundora is a tough out for anyone, even though he does everything to make himself beatable.
-Adames hasn’t really improved so much as reminded everyone of Montiel’s limitations. Charlo got himself a relatively safe mandatory
- I know Ancajas makes for fast pace fights but I hate his style and am glad he’s being relegated to off-TV fights from here (presumably)
As for Jack Reiss, not sure what that was about but he’s been a solid ref in the past (if a little curmudgeonly) and I hope the CA commission makes him watch the fight with them and explain his tantrums.
I don’t think I’ve seen a ref request to the commission that a corner be fined...have you? Is it common/within the ref’s purview?
Not common but I have seen it.
Jack Reiss is the Joe West of boxing
Sorry, but that distinction still definitely belongs to Laurence Cole. (Honorable mention: Marcus McDonnell)
What the hell was wrong with Jack Reiss? Seemed to be in a really bad temper. IMO there was no real need to threaten Ocampo with stopping the bout at the end of the 8th and as Ocampo didn't spill the water in the corner between the 10th and 11th it was rather brutal to tell the commission reps that he wanted Ocampo fined. Water is spilled all the time in the corners during fights it's difficult to prove that such spillages were done deliberately.
When you consider the physical advantages that Fundora possesses I think Ocampo did as well as could be expected - although obviously Jack Reiss wouldn't agree.
I have to say that Seb Fundora's career shows how trusting boxing fans are. He's 6'6", and repeatedly makes the 11 stone limit, seemingly with ease, then after rehydration seems to be as strong as an Ox and yet not a single boxing fan appears to bat an eyelid - not a single query asking how Fundora is able to do this.
Just a guess on Fandora doing this and that is the PBC drug testing arraingment ? Just a thought.
As for Jackie Poo he is an idiot and anyone who is not slanted would feel the same way. It was not just wrong it effected the fight up until Jackie Poo got a deep need to make the fight about himself something he always does reguarly, Oca was going to the body often, was using head shots when available then Jackie to the rescue he wanted to see more punches more power shots. That is not the refs job...Not at all..... If a fighter throws looping shots, if a fighter throws body shots it dont matter. If a fighter is hurt which Oca was not if a fighter is limited bc he is not staggered and can not defend himself that is a dif story. I talked this over at lenght with someone else so am tiered of it but Jackie Poo was out of line. He should be fined not the corner for spilling water, he should be brought to explain himself not the corner. He effected outcome of a fight. He forced Oca corner to make his fighter fight as if he had been knocked down several times and was walking the canvas like he was drunk he was not. That is pure shit on Jackie Poo side. Hey it dont bother me like those using PEDs we can argue this point . And one other thing the annoucers were terrible they gave all credit to Fundora but nothing to Oca for six rounds it was not until Farhoods card in the sixth which he called the figth even at that point then the crew started to recognize the skills and fighter mentally Oca possess. Thanks Ozz sorry i took so many words.............
No problem John I completely agree - I watched on YouTube the following day and I couldn't believe the ref's performance - no wonder Ocampo was asking for a rematch - he won't get one though of course.
From all the dodgy drug testing goings on that Haymon has been close to in the past, I'll be surprised if there's any proper random drug testing being used on any of the PBC fighters.
I think from the little I have found out is that PBC and its fighters are not too concerned about there fighters being surprised with drug testing of any effective time. Times are changing and getting worst with testing. When promoters act the way they did and hid results which is not new it has been going for a long time. Test but warn in adance and if the fighter gets caught dont report till after the fight then play word games about B Sample and try to confuse the publc or at least wait till they forget about it which takes about 24 hours. Shame they have no test for honesty and respect for the sport.....There would be no promoters left, not an honest platform around either.
Have the promoters and fighters frankly and fully answered the "Benn" question - that is, withholding positive drug test results from the public?