Canelo is very good. Great. Not so sure. There's talk of him facing uniting light heavyweights too. Let him get past Plant first (Saunders will be a walk). And as for fighting Artura Beterbiev, well that will likely look a lot like this fight, only with Canelo on the receiving end. Beterbiev is Golovkin writ large and, as most realistic boxing fans know, Canelo is 0-1-1 against Golovkin (he will, however, bear him, perhaps even knock him out, in a third fight cause Canelo took yet another page out of the Mayweather playbook, which is wait till the truly dangerous opponents are old).
Lol. These sort of “pundits” resemble the “fake news” and “stop the steal” crowd. Canelo keeps moving up and facing top contenders and people keep wanting him to move up in weight. Yeah, canelo is now dodging Usyk! Lol. And if you think canelo lost the first fight against the one dimensional GGG then you’d recognize GGG lost against Jacobs and the canelo fight should not have taken place.
I think the scores against Golovkin were pretty fair. They were very close though. I give Canelo a good shot against Beterbiev, I’d like to see that fight. Saying Canelo is ducking anybody is easy enough to say I guess. I wouldn’t advise saying it to him though....
we'll agree to disagree. I could give you that Canelo won the second, but the first a tie. Not even close. More importantly, Beterbiev versus Canelo is a blow out. I think he knows it too. I suspect that if there's any chance for that fight to move forward, we won't see it for at least three years by which time Artur will be 39. He might fight Bivol, however who is not nearly as dangerous. The Kovalev fight was meaningless. It's hard to remember a more shot fighter.
There's no doubt that Canelo is a very good fighter but there are so many aspects of his career that I find suspect that I just sound like a hater if I list them eg: Kovalev a 36 yr old alcoholic, Smith with only 30 days to relocate to the US & train specifically for Canelo etc.
I scored both Canelo vs Golovkin fights for Gennadiy - the first one clear & the second closer but because Canelo ate Golovkin's jab, really a power punch, all night I thought Golovkin nicked it - like you I could stretch to a draw but not a win - the judging in both of these fights were very suspect to say the least.
I think he learned more than the shoulder roll from his fight from Mayweather. He seems to truly be a master at always setting the odds in his favour, either by timing, age or, i suspect in the case of beterbiev, simply not fighting him. Contrast that wth teofimo lopez, an admitted loud mouth schnook with a father you just wished would go away, deliberately targeting who many people considered was the best fighter in the world while Lomanchenko was still in his prime. If Canelo fights beterbiev in the next year and somehow managed a win, I'll be the first to convert and admit i was wrong, but right now he's just floyd may weather.
We seem to be on the same wavelength with regard to Canelo and Mayweather.
Beterbiev has just turned 36 and so Canelo may have to wait a year or so until he's showing signs of decline - if he hasn't already as he had an extensive amateur career (295 - 5 record) and can't be at his best for much longer.
BJS is a slick natural boxer, but he doesn't possess the power to bother Canelo. He's gonna have to fight a perfect fight to have a chance. Same with Plant.
Nobody seems to argue that the WBA also sanctioned the fight. If the fight was that bad, why did they not refuse to sanction it as a WBA title defence? Same for Ring Magazine.....
Saunders is an underdog for sure against Canelo - but the dude can box and has tended to perform to the level of his opponent. The guy who boxed circles around David Lemieux will be a live dog, if that guy shows up.
Dan, it's obvious you dislike Saunders, you forgot to mention Canelo has tested positive for clenbuterol, in the past. If you mention it about one then you should about the other, just saying.
I like your setup here Dan! This was definitely not one of them. Still, the absolute total domination was impressive. Yildrim may have sat somewhere on lower end of the boxer scale between opponent and contender, but he was no tomato can, until he got in the ring with Canelo. As Mr. Tyson famously said; “everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth”. His 700+ days of training and probably, obsessive, planning for his defining moment evaporated in a heartbeat, and a quick, stiff, and entirely effortless punch in the kisser.
Plz ,that was a great fighter he fought?? The sheep was nothing a former sparring partner at that !! How boxing blows up these pound for pound best guys , I'll keep watching for a good laugh but money talks and anyone can be a champion ask your big mouth mayweather and his thugs !!!
Yildirim probably went over this fight in his head a million times. None of those run through’s went the way it went last night. He looked totally finished after the third. In over his head so much farther than he imagined.
Unfortunately because of inactivity I don't think that's likely.
Even if I'm wrong, Canelo is much better than Lemmy while Bill imo is not a "true" super middleweight - imo he's a lazy middleweight who would have a much better chance of beating Canelo back at 160.
Canelo is simply too fast, too smart, and too strong now. Sorry but BJS has no chance. This guy is one of the greats. Lastly, great article Dan.
Canelo is very good. Great. Not so sure. There's talk of him facing uniting light heavyweights too. Let him get past Plant first (Saunders will be a walk). And as for fighting Artura Beterbiev, well that will likely look a lot like this fight, only with Canelo on the receiving end. Beterbiev is Golovkin writ large and, as most realistic boxing fans know, Canelo is 0-1-1 against Golovkin (he will, however, bear him, perhaps even knock him out, in a third fight cause Canelo took yet another page out of the Mayweather playbook, which is wait till the truly dangerous opponents are old).
Lol. These sort of “pundits” resemble the “fake news” and “stop the steal” crowd. Canelo keeps moving up and facing top contenders and people keep wanting him to move up in weight. Yeah, canelo is now dodging Usyk! Lol. And if you think canelo lost the first fight against the one dimensional GGG then you’d recognize GGG lost against Jacobs and the canelo fight should not have taken place.
I think the scores against Golovkin were pretty fair. They were very close though. I give Canelo a good shot against Beterbiev, I’d like to see that fight. Saying Canelo is ducking anybody is easy enough to say I guess. I wouldn’t advise saying it to him though....
we'll agree to disagree. I could give you that Canelo won the second, but the first a tie. Not even close. More importantly, Beterbiev versus Canelo is a blow out. I think he knows it too. I suspect that if there's any chance for that fight to move forward, we won't see it for at least three years by which time Artur will be 39. He might fight Bivol, however who is not nearly as dangerous. The Kovalev fight was meaningless. It's hard to remember a more shot fighter.
There's no doubt that Canelo is a very good fighter but there are so many aspects of his career that I find suspect that I just sound like a hater if I list them eg: Kovalev a 36 yr old alcoholic, Smith with only 30 days to relocate to the US & train specifically for Canelo etc.
I scored both Canelo vs Golovkin fights for Gennadiy - the first one clear & the second closer but because Canelo ate Golovkin's jab, really a power punch, all night I thought Golovkin nicked it - like you I could stretch to a draw but not a win - the judging in both of these fights were very suspect to say the least.
I think he learned more than the shoulder roll from his fight from Mayweather. He seems to truly be a master at always setting the odds in his favour, either by timing, age or, i suspect in the case of beterbiev, simply not fighting him. Contrast that wth teofimo lopez, an admitted loud mouth schnook with a father you just wished would go away, deliberately targeting who many people considered was the best fighter in the world while Lomanchenko was still in his prime. If Canelo fights beterbiev in the next year and somehow managed a win, I'll be the first to convert and admit i was wrong, but right now he's just floyd may weather.
We seem to be on the same wavelength with regard to Canelo and Mayweather.
Beterbiev has just turned 36 and so Canelo may have to wait a year or so until he's showing signs of decline - if he hasn't already as he had an extensive amateur career (295 - 5 record) and can't be at his best for much longer.
Canelo is a very good fighter but imo there isn't fighters of high enough quality around at the moment to show that he's one of the greats.
There's also questionable aspects of his career that suggests he's not one of the greats.
BJS is a slick natural boxer, but he doesn't possess the power to bother Canelo. He's gonna have to fight a perfect fight to have a chance. Same with Plant.
Nobody seems to argue that the WBA also sanctioned the fight. If the fight was that bad, why did they not refuse to sanction it as a WBA title defence? Same for Ring Magazine.....
Saunders is an underdog for sure against Canelo - but the dude can box and has tended to perform to the level of his opponent. The guy who boxed circles around David Lemieux will be a live dog, if that guy shows up.
Dan, it's obvious you dislike Saunders, you forgot to mention Canelo has tested positive for clenbuterol, in the past. If you mention it about one then you should about the other, just saying.
Perhaps Zurro R. Or Bandera Rojo Benevidez
Would clash with Beterbiev.
Save the hypothetical matchups
Canelo is not going up to lhwght.
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I like your setup here Dan! This was definitely not one of them. Still, the absolute total domination was impressive. Yildrim may have sat somewhere on lower end of the boxer scale between opponent and contender, but he was no tomato can, until he got in the ring with Canelo. As Mr. Tyson famously said; “everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth”. His 700+ days of training and probably, obsessive, planning for his defining moment evaporated in a heartbeat, and a quick, stiff, and entirely effortless punch in the kisser.
Plz ,that was a great fighter he fought?? The sheep was nothing a former sparring partner at that !! How boxing blows up these pound for pound best guys , I'll keep watching for a good laugh but money talks and anyone can be a champion ask your big mouth mayweather and his thugs !!!
Yildirim did what he had to do for his family. Unfortunately it came at our expense and time the fans.
Yildirim probably went over this fight in his head a million times. None of those run through’s went the way it went last night. He looked totally finished after the third. In over his head so much farther than he imagined.
There be a difference between sparring and fighting to be sure
If the same Saunders who whooped Lemieux turns up, should be a good fight.
Unfortunately because of inactivity I don't think that's likely.
Even if I'm wrong, Canelo is much better than Lemmy while Bill imo is not a "true" super middleweight - imo he's a lazy middleweight who would have a much better chance of beating Canelo back at 160.
It would be nice to see what would happen if lemieux caught him with one of those left hooks :)
Oh sure, Canelo is the best in the world ... but Saunders has shown an ability/tendency to play to the level of his opponent.